FORMER IDF SOLDIER TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT ISRAELI SOLDIERS AND FORMER MOSSAD BOSS TELLS THE LIES ABOUT ISRAELI SECURITY
Former IDF Soldier: “Most Israeli Soldiers Do Not Want To Be Part of Occupation!”
Former Mossad Chief: “Israel Doesn’t Need More Land For Security!”
January 12, 2014 – One of the admins at I Acknowledge Apartheid Exists interviewed Sarit Jacobsohn – a former Israeli soldier. Sarit was kind enough to answer some questions for us to help the world understand at least her perspective on the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian people. Questions are in bold.
To start off can you say a bit about yourself?
My name is Sarit Jacobsohn I am 41 years of age. I was born in Hong-Kong, and then moved to Israel at the age of 4 where I grew up. I was drafted into the IDF like every other Israeli citizen. I served 3 months and then left. I refused most of my duties. I couldn’t stand it and left Israel, and moved to America. I am now living in the U.S as a songwriter, artist and activist for Palestine.
How where you enrolled into the IDF and for how long?
At the age of 18 all Israelis are forced to do military service. Boys do 3 years and girls 2. I tried avoiding it but it was not possible, I was threatened with jail time so I joined. I joined during the first gulf war and lasted 3 months. I did not like it. It felt wrong. I could see the boy soldiers crying everywhere in the base and knew something was terribly wrong. However, many believe the military is a good thing and that it keeps them safe.
What are the procedures for recruitment into the IDF?
Most people get accepted to serve and want to serve. They give soldiers numbers, for example if you get number 97 that means you are in great shape and can participate in combat. Some refuse to serve by declaring they are religious. How ironic. If you are a pregnant or married female…they let you go…
What training is given before you are deployed at checkpoints, streets etc?
I was not deployed in a checkpoint so I would not know. But I hear there is very little training. A sister of a good friend worked in Alemby checkpoint during the 80?s and I will never forget how sad it made her. She said she had to strip search other women.
How would you describe your fellow soldiers who served with you?
The fellow soldiers, most of them do not want to be there. We used to call those that are eager to serve poisoned and laugh at them. One horrible night, my officer tried to rape me, but I threatened him with my gun. That was very surreal. Many male soldiers would cry a lot all day long. Sometimes when I would try to comfort them they only would cry more. I knew then something was terribly wrong. Especially in our macho culture where men do not weep in public.
How do IDF soldiers view Palestinians?
Most of them view them as an enemy. They know nothing but the propaganda they are raised to believe. There is a very negative attitude towards the Palestinians. I was kicked out the second I said I like Palestinians. Maybe there are some who view Palestinians in a more positive way, but I did not meet any. You never really know though, it depends on the individual, some really hate them, some don’t, but very few like them because of the way we were educated as children.
What was your worst experience serving in the IDF?
One month into IDF they sent me to a course where we had to study 20 hours a day and got no sleep. It was such a nightmare. The officers would abuse us and treat us like dirt. And than when the weekend came only those with good grades got to go home. That was terrible I was only 18. I have also suffered long-term effects; I suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
However, I did used to rebel. When the officers asked for coffee with sugar I used salt. When they asked me to paint the rooms white, I painted them black. When they told me to put gas in the generators I put oil and they were really mad at me for that.
Breaking the silence is a civil rights movement allowing soldiers to speak out about their experiences. What do you think of this? Do you think these people are at danger for speaking out?
Yes I think they are in great danger from other citizens and even the government. Anyone who dares to speak out gets his or her life threatened on a regular basis. I get death threats and verbal abuse all the time. However, the truth must be known and that is what I dedicate my life to now.
Do you think that there are a lot of soldiers within the IDF wanting to leave, and how might they try to leave?
More than we think. I think most of them want to leave. I could be wrong…but when I was there the men and women were crying because they hated being there. Many have tried to commit suicide, including myself. Others shoot their feet, or engage in self-harm so they do not have to serve. A friend of mine shot his own foot and was sent to jail for hurting IDF property.
Finally, I know that you are now a singer, songwriter and artist. Do your songs and paintings reflect the experiences you had serving in the IDF? Where can we find more info about your work?
The IDF made me realize how dumb war is and that it should never be an option. It sure changed me. My music and art is political and I believe it is time to evolve into a better world. I now work towards exposing the truth about Israel. My dream is to live in a world where no one is oppressed. Here is a song I wrote, click here: http://youtu.be/v5WFTSpAgAk
Former Mossad Chief: Israel Doesn’t Need More Land For Security
January 5, 2014 (I Acknowledge Apartheid Exists)
“I don’t like the ongoing argument about the Jordan Valley as an essential element to the security of Israel. This is manipulation and utilization of security considerations.” – Meir Dagan, former Mossad chief.
It’s disingenuous for Israel to continue to profess that it must take more land from the Palestinians if it’s to keep the peace with the Palestinian people. The frightening thing is that people actually parrot that argument. As the Israelis like to say – Israel’s real borders .. the borders as established in 1967 or so called 1967 borders … are not sufficient for Israel to maintain its own security. Additionally – they say that these borders are somehow indefensible and that’s why they continue to build “Jews only” settlements.
It’s complete bullshit. And Meir Dagan – the former Mossad chief – has said as much.
Most recently – Maan News captures this HERE:
Meir Dagan told a crowd of Israelis in Kfar Saba in central Israel on Friday that the issue of the Jordan Valley is a purely political issue, according to the Hebrew language daily newspaper Maariv.
“I don’t like the ongoing argument about the Jordan Valley as an essential element to the security of Israel. This is manipulation and utilization of security considerations,” he is reported to have said.
There is no Iraqi army, and we have a peace agreement with Jordan, so there is no threat on the eastern front, Dagan added.
Dagan highlighted that he was giving his personal opinion which he could not “prove definitively.”
This isn’t the first time he has said this. In June of 2013 – Meir Dagan said this HERE:
None other than Israel’s “knife-in-the-teeth” former Mossad chief, Meir Dagan, has told (Hebrew) the “war session” at Shimon Peres’ Presidential conference that Israel defended its border quite well up to 1967 and could do so again. He added that the current borders are not ones that must be maintained in order to protect Israel’s security. He even made this bold statement:
Borders don’t matter.
By which he meant that security is guaranteed not by borders, but rather by secure relations with Israel’s frontline neighbors. He offered the example of Jordan, saying the Jordan Valley was important until 1991, when Israel signed a peace agreement with Jordan. Now the Jordan border is quiet and secure.
But when you listen to Israeli politicians – they say keeping their international commitment to the 1967 borders would be like asking for another Holocaust. They call the 1967 borders “Auschwitz borders” trying to use the memory of the Holocaust to justify their continued war crimes. And remember – every single illegal “Jews only” settlement is a war crime under international law.
From Haaretz HERE:
“The Jordan Valley must be under Israeli sovereignty forever. Now of all times, in a government headed by Likud, in a settlement built by Likud, we can say loud and clear: You will remain here forever and there will be Israeli sovereignty here.
To all those who are now making proposals for Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 borders, there is only one reply, which was already given in 1969 by then- foreign minister Abba Eban: The 1967 borders are Auschwitz borders! The only reply that Likud government should give to such proposals is: No! It’s right to talk to our neighbors, but it’s illogical for them to ask us to give up the security of Israel’s inhabitants and Israel’s vital interests. Anyone who gives up the Jordan Valley will turn Kfar Sava into Sderot.”
~Zeev Elkin, Israeli Deputy foreign minister
In 2011 – Arutz Sheva – an Israeli settler news organization referred to the 1967 borders as “Auschwitz borders” HERE:
“The editors of Arutz Sheva, an Israeli settler news organization, which reported on Thursday that Mr. Obama had “dramatically changed U.S. foreign policy” by suggesting that Israel should eventually withdraw to what it called the “Auschwitz borders” of the 1967 state.”
Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu continues to propagate the lie that Israel can’t stop the occupation of the Jordan Valley in Palestine because of security HERE:
“Our strength is the guarantee for our existence and peace. We do not want an Iranian offshoot in Judea and Samaria. This requires a security border in the Jordan Valley, as Rabin said in his last speech.”
Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar said Israel will never let go of these “Jews only” settlements and that they will only further expand in the Jordan valley for “security reasons” HERE:
“There is a message we’re sending, and it’s that there is a consensus among the Israeli public that our presence here in the Jordan Valley is not a temporary one,” Sa’ar said. “The development of this area over two generations has enjoyed support by governments led by both Likud and Labor.”
“Our statement is clear. The Jordan Valley is Israeli and the Jordan Valley will stay Israeli. Our eastern border must be the Jordan River,” Sa’ar went on, adding that if Israel didn’t keep control of the area, he added, the Jewish state will lack ‘strategic depth’ necessary for its survival.”
The proliferation of settlers and the agriculture, he said, would ensure Israel maintains control of the area. “Wherever there aren’t settlements the IDF will not be,” Sa’ar added. “These settlements are in Israel’s best interest and we must strengthen them.”
Former Mossad chief: Jordan Valley not a vital Israeli security asset
Dagan says any political statement citing security reasons for retaining Israeli control of the Jordan Valley is mere manipulation, Maariv reports; Intelligence Min. Steinitz: Anyone who doesn’t understand Jordan Valley solution doesn’t understand Mideast.
The Jordan Valley is not essential to Israel’s security because the country is not facing a threat from the east, said former Mossad director Meir Dagan, days after a ministerial panel supported legislation to officially annex the Israeli settlements in the valley, which borders Jordan.
“I have no problem with the political demand that the valley should be part of the State of Israel,” Dagan said in a lecture at a Kfar Saba café last week, according to Maariv. “Such a position is permissible. What bothers me is that it’s being depicted as some kind of security problem. There is no Iraqi army, there is no eastern front. There’s peace with Jordan. I don’t like the talk that the valley is essential to Israel’s security.”
Dagan said citing security reasons for retaining the Jordan Valley was “manipulation.”
Intelligence Minister Yuval Steinitz, weighing in on the issue on Sunday during U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry’s visit to the region, told public radio that it would be a mistake to accept any security concessions for the Jordan Valley:
“Security must remain in our hands. Anyone who proposes a solution in the Jordan Valley by deploying an international force, Palestinian police or technological means … does not understand the Middle East,” Steinitz said.
The fate of the Jordan Valley was expected to be one of the major issues Kerry was planning to discuss in his meetings with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Kerry is in the region to discuss his “framework agreement” and push forward Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.
According to reports, a new security plan drafted by Washington calls for Israel to maintain a military presence in the Jordan Valley for a period of 10 years, as part of a future peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians. The Palestinians are vehemently opposed to the plan.
Netanyahu warned Likud ministers last week against voting for a bill to annex Jordan Valley settlements, saying such a move could be perceived as provocative and might harm Israel. Hours after his remarks, and despite his warning, all Likud ministers in the Ministerial Committee for Legislation supported such a bill.
Last week government ministers and Knesset members attended the dedication of a new neighborhood in the Jordan Valley, watching cement poured into the foundations and sending the message that “our presence here in the Jordan Valley is not a temporary one,” said Interior Minister Gideon Sa’ar.
“The Jordan Valley is Israeli and the Jordan Valley will stay Israeli. Our eastern border must be the Jordan River,” Sa’ar went on, adding that if Israel didn’t keep control of the area, the Jewish state will lack ‘strategic depth’ necessary for its survival.”
So Israel keeps taking Palestinian land based on lies. They will never leave Palestine until the international community turns their backs on her. The only peaceful way forward is to support the boycott, divestment and sanction of Israel.
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